Wednesday Swing State Polls Analysis: OH, VA, NV, NH, National — Momentum Shifting Back To Obama?
We have several new polls in today, including some interesting national data pointing to a potential Obama debate bounce. Numbers are below, followed by my analysis.
* OHIO: Obama 49%, Romney 44% — No previous poll (TIME)
* OHIO: Obama 47%, Romney 44% — No change since 1 week ago (SurveyUSA)
* OHIO: Obama 48%, Romney 48% — Romney +1% since 1 week ago (Rasmussen)
* VIRGINIA: Obama 49%, Romney 46% — No previous poll (Zogby)
* NEVADA: Obama 51%, Romney 47% — No change since 1 week ago (Public Policy)
* NEVADA: Obama 50%, Romney 48% — Romney +1% since 1 week ago (Rasmussen)
* NEW HAMPSHIRE: Romney 50%, Obama 48% — Romney +3% since 1 week ago (Rasmussen)
* NATIONAL: Obama 49%, Romney 45% — Obama +2% since yesterday (RAND)
* NATIONAL: Obama 47%, Romney 44% — Obama +1% since yesterday (IBD/TIPP)
* NATIONAL: Obama 48%, Romney 47% — Obama +2% since yesterday (Gallup RV)
* NATIONAL: Obama 48%, Romney 48% — Obama +2% since yesterday (Public Policy)
* NATIONAL: Romney 47%, Obama 46% — Romney +2% since yesterday (Reuters)
* NATIONAL: Romney 49%, Obama 48% — No change since yesterday (ABC/Washington Post)
* NATIONAL: Romney 50%, Obama 47% — Obama +2% since yesterday (Gallup LV)
* NATIONAL: Romney 50%, Obama 46% — No change since yesterday (Rasmussen)
The daily national trackers all added in one day of post-debate samples today (Tuesday) and all showed Obama gains or no change except for Reuters, a sign of a potential Obama post-debate bounce (especially compared to the mostly non-existant second debate bounce he got). It’s also worth noting that Gallup’s approval rating for Obama, which is a three day sample and not a seven day sample like their head-to-head numbers, showed Obama’s net approval shooting up +5% today to its highest point since right before the first debate (53% approve, 42% disapprove). We will see tomorrow how big this bounce is poised to be as another post-debate day gets added to the sample while another pre-debate day gets dropped off, but even a net 1%-2% bounce for Obama would be hugely significant in an election this close. This also seems to raise questions as to whether Romney’s third debate strategy of more or less conceding most points and not fighting was wise. I wrote in my debate review that it was a very risky strategy because he didn’t come off anything like the passionate, aggressive Romney that swayed voters in debate one, while making Obama seem like the more Presidential and authoritative leader of the two. The “play it safe” strategy didn’t work for Obama in debate one, and it doesn’t appear to have worked for Romney in debate three.
On the state poll level, the headline poll today is the big TIME Ohio poll showing Obama up 5% on the back of a whopping 60% to 30% lead in early voting (worth noting that only half the poll was conducted after the final debate, the other half before it). The TIME poll is a high-quality, live interview poll. Virtually every high-quality, live interview poll we have seen has shown Obama with fairly comfortable leads in Ohio of 4% and higher. The huge early voting margins that Obama is opening up in states like Ohio, Iowa, and Nevada are going to be crucial, particularly if he is turning out the types of voters that polls consider to be unlikely voters (more on that below). Nevada also continues to look like it is solidifying behind Obama, forming a key part of the Obama firewall along with Ohio, Iowa, and Wisconsin.
The Obama campaign is claiming that they are turning out the types of voters that pollsters would tend to label as unlikely voters and filter out of likely voter models. If that is the case, it would be a significant development because of how large the gap has been between the registered voter models in polls, which tend to improve Obama’s numbers by 3-7%, and the likely voter models, which tend to improve Romney’s numbers by 3-7%. If the truth is even somewhere in the middle, it would amount to what is essentially a 1.5-3.5% bounce for Obama. Turnout is everything at this point. The campaign that is able to turnout more on-the-margin, unlikely voters is probably going to win.
One other important development today is that when you take everything that has happened today as a whole — the third debate victory momentum for Obama, the shifts to Obama in most of the daily tracking polls, his approval rating surging to its highest point since before the first debate, today’s TIME Ohio poll, the Obama campaign showing total confidence to the media that they are in position to win, the Mourdock distraction for Romney, etc. — we are starting to see the media narrative shift away from the Romney momentum narrative that has dominated since the first debate. That is a very key development going into the final days of this election.
Of course, tomorrow will tell us a lot more about how real the Obama bounce is, and we’ll need to wait until then to form any concrete conclusions.
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Obama 49%, Romney 44% - 11.05.12 | OHIO (Gravis)
Obama 49%, Romney 48% - 11.05.12 | NEW HAMPSHIRE (Rasmussen)
Obama 50%, Romney 48% - 11.05.12 | COLORADO (Keating)
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Obama 50%, Romney 49% - 11.05.12 | NEW HAMPSHIRE (New Eng. Coll.)
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Obama 49%, Romney 49% - 11.05.12 | VIRGINIA (NBC/WSJ)
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Obama 51%, Romney 47% - 11.04.12 | NEW HAMPSHIRE (Public Policy)
Obama 50%, Romney 48% - 11.04.12 | IOWA (Public Policy)
Obama 50%, Romney 48% - 11.04.12 | OHIO (YouGov)
Obama 49%, Romney 46% - 11.04.12 | FLORIDA (YouGov)
Romney 48%, Obama 47% - 11.04.12 | VIRGINIA (YouGov)
Obama 48%, Romney 46% - 11.04.12 | WISCONSIN (YouGov)
Obama 50%, Romney 46% - 11.04.12 | COLORADO (YouGov)
Obama 48%, Romney 47% - 11.04.12 | NEW HAMPSHIRE (YouGov)
Obama 47%, Romney 43% - 11.04.12 | NEVADA (YouGov)
Obama 49%, Romney 45% - 11.04.12 | IOWA (YouGov)
Obama 48%, Romney 47% - 11.04.12 | NORTH CAROLINA (YouGov)
Romney 49%, Obama 47% - 11.04.12 | IOWA (Des Moines Register)
Obama 47%, Romney 42% - 11.04.12 | WISCONSIN (Public Policy)
Obama 51%, Romney 48% - 11.04.12 | NEW HAMPSHIRE (UNH)
Obama 47%, Romney 47% - 11.04.12 | OHIO (Columbus Dispatch)
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Obama 49%, Romney 45% - 11.03.12 | WISCONSIN (Grove)
Obama 48%, Romney 42% - 11.03.12 | IOWA (Grove)
Obama 47%, Romney 44% - 11.03.12 | OHIO (NBC/WSJ)
Obama 51%, Romney 45% - 11.03.12 | FLORIDA (NBC/WSJ)
Obama 49%, Romney 47% - 11.03.12 | FLORIDA (Miami Herald)
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Obama 50%, Romney 46% - 11.02.12 | WISCONSIN (WeAskAmerica)
Obama 52%, Romney 45% - 11.02.12 | VIRGINIA (WeAskAmerica)
Obama 49%, Romney 48% - 11.02.12 | NEW HAMPSHIRE (Gravis)
Obama 50%, Romney 49% - 11.02.12 | COLORADO (SurveyUSA)
Obama 47%, Romney 45% - 11.02.12 | COLORADO (Public Policy)
Obama 50%, Romney 46% - 11.02.12 | IOWA (Gravis)
Obama 49%, Romney 45% - 11.02.12 | NEW HAMPSHIRE (New Eng College)
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Now THIS is starting to make more sense!
What is the difference between Gallup LV and RV?
Likely voters (LV). Registered voters (RV).
Registered voters who while eligible to vote are no sure thing to show up at the polls. Likely voters are of course the opposite. The goal of every political campaign is to get as many voters as possible. Let me give a good example of this. Say Romney is losing, which it looks like he is. Now a Romney supporter might sit back and say screw it, I’m staying home. A likely voter is going to say you know what? Romney may lose but I’m still supporting him. I’m going to vote. That’s the difference.
Ashish, would it be possible to do a summary on what the trends for the current Senate races are? It would be interesting to see whether or not Democrats or Republicans performing well in swing states is going to lend aid to Obama or Romney’s chances in that state.
Quinnipiac also has President Obama up by 5% in Ohio (Oct 20th). And that was *BEFORE* debate #3. Lay that next to the latest TIME poll (Oct 23rd, only 1 day after debate #3), and you have two high quality polls (not robo-polls) within days of each other saying the same thing about Ohio.
With only 12 days to go until election day, this is very bad news for Romney. If he can’t take Ohio, his path to 270 is almost nil.
Ashish: what are the chances of including the margin of error for the different polls? I know normally its about 3% but if its different id be curious as to what poll numbers are inside the margin of error.